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Da Baptist (John 1:27)

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Barack Obama!

Because us as human biengs need to realize that we have the power to speak ALL things into reality.  For example GOD said "let their be light" and there was light! I truly feel that Barack Obama realizes that and sees how powerful words can be to uplift an entire nation to actually make a change in their own lives by developing better habits.  Like establishing excellent credit by enrolling into the #1 Credit Restoration company in the country, United Credit Education Services - www.vrtmg.com/gbarnes .  "We can't restore the economy until we restore the people and the community." - unkown

I truly feel that the entire demcratic party is coming together as one collective unit to get our country out of serious trouble.  Hillary & Bill Clinton cannot overseee the new Health Care reform from the Vice Presidential position and Joe Biden has the experience and has worked with John Mcain in the past.

Also, beware that the illuminati and other evil cults are behind the majority of the major world disasters, terrorist attacks, and natural disasters for over 100 years.  BUT I know for a fact that GOD's saved family will be protected like a force field. So Don't trip!


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Anonymous

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You're cut off!  No more Fox( faux) news for you.  YOU leave if you don't like what's happening!  This is America after all.  Remember, we're a democracy.  Dork.  And it's "they're", not their.  Double dork.

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Anonymous

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I will vote for Obama, and hope he gets us out of the finacial, quagmire G Bush has got the country into.
He has the country in more dept than ALL the previous Presidents combined, before him.
I was hoping for Hillary, but that was not to be, however a Democrat IS a must.

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Anonymous

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their all bad. all you liberal morans need to get out of the country if you dont like the way bush ran it. we stopped terrorism. and these librals are going to ruin america.

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Lynn

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I don't know what dictionary you have-but the ones I have all spell delicatessen the way I did. Unless of course, you're German, then it's d-e-l-i-K-a-t-e-s-s-e-n


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Lynn

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The Composed Clintonista wrote:

By the way Lynn, that isn't how you spell "delicatessen", if you're going to be so condescending as to correct someone's spelling. Frankly, you seem quite rude. I thought your candidate promises unity; I'm afraid your insignificant (albeit spirited) jabs at our fellow Democrats do not reflect the sentiment of the Obama crowd.



Regardless of my mistake in spelling, I am correct in what Hillary did Before she entered politics. All you accomplished was a personal attack on me and tell me to not berate Hillary. I believe I still have the freedom to criticize anyone I choose, as do you. Isn't that what Clintonites do to Obama?
Your insignifcance is underwhelming, as is your opinion.
Since you thought me rude before, then I'll go whole-hog and inform you that you haven't the intelligence to research any of the things I mentioned in my post.
Your abject ignorance is highly amusing. You are so blithely naive that you actually believe the Clintons will release anything negative about their involvement in the matters I posted, after more than 10 years have already passed!
Please-don't try to sound like my equal when clearly you haven't the IQ to reach that of the average moron.

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The Composed Clintonista

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By the way Lynn, that isn't how you spell "delicatessen", if you're going to be so condescending as to correct someone's spelling.  Frankly, you seem quite rude.  I thought your candidate promises unity; I'm afraid your insignificant (albeit spirited) jabs at our fellow Democrats do not reflect the sentiment of the Obama crowd.   

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The Composed Clintonista

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Lynn wrote:

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to 'everyone'...idiot



To Anonymous: the correct spelling of 'deligate'(what's that?--a  swinging-door delicatessan?) is: d-e-l-e-g-a-t-e

Hmmm. Interesting observations on your part, but you failed to mention Hillary's VAST accumulation of her "embellished remembrances" of her functions as First Lady, her 'extraordinary rendition' of her resume, and her inflated participation in politics-from interning (read copy girl) at a law firm whose senior partner was involved in politics to political activism(read-painting placards and handing out fliers), to stating that SHE was responsible for writing the health-care reform bill--which DIED, by the way. Please, NO FIRST LADY ever actively participated in running the presidency while her husband was still in office, with the exception of Eleanor Roosevelt, and Hillary is definitely not the intellectual or even class equal of Eleanor Roosevelt.
Hillary's claim to political fame-the beleaguered wife of a philandering husband;
the first FIRST LADY to have been called before a Congressional hearing-I believe scamming old people out of their homes and life-savings is a crime-how 'bout you-(remember WHITEWATER?); no good answers on that, AND she withheld documents requested by the Congress; undeclared windfall from cattle futures-never handed over the tax records on that, either, to Congress; the STILL unanswered questions of her knowledge of why Vince Foster committed suicide(I STILL think she knows more than she said); and the rest of her psychological neuroses that she continues to exhibit. Who can now say she's the best candidate for the job????weirdface




     Of course, Hillary's experience as First Lady is debateable.  Even is she wasn't writing policy, I still believe that there is a lot to be said for being with a President in the White House for 8 years.  She knows how the Executive Branch works.  Even if you discount her experience in the White House, she has had a successful tenure in the Senate.  As far as these elusive documents, we're all waiting on the National Archives to open these up.  If you are so concerned, write their office and tell them to hurry up.  Don't berate Hillary.  As far as the Clinton's tax information, I am of the opinion that someone's income/taxes is their private information.  Anyway, the Clinton's have promised to out with the info during the general election (which is the customary way of releasing the information for politicians).  Frankly, the rest of your argument sounds like the disjointed banter of an exasperated conspiracy theorist.  
     My head isn't in the clouds: my candidate is losing right now.  Of course, if one looks at the superdelegate count, the majority support Clinton.  If one counts all voters in Democratic primaries and caucuses, she's winning there, too.  Michigan and Florida broke DNC rules, and the DNC must decide if and how those delegates will be seated.  Secondly, if the Democratic primary process were set up to reflect the Electoral College, Hillary would be winning.  I'm sure I'll be accused of being some sort of Republican for writing against the DNC, but I'm right (or should I say, left). 

     That said, though I am a Clintonite, I am fully prepared to support Barack Obama in November should he be the nominee.  I and many other Democrats thought this would be an easy year; turns out we may be wrong.  It is our responsibility as liberal voters to unite behind our party's candidate.  It scares me that our party seems to be splitting along two big lines: blacks and young voters for Obama, blue-collar workers, Latinos, and older voters for Clinton.  I think we will have plenty of time between Denver and the general election to get together, but it's still a scary thought. 



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Lynn

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to 'everyone'...idiot



To Anonymous: the correct spelling of 'deligate'(what's that?--a  swinging-door delicatessan?) is: d-e-l-e-g-a-t-e

Hmmm. Interesting observations on your part, but you failed to mention Hillary's VAST accumulation of her "embellished remembrances" of her functions as First Lady, her 'extraordinary rendition' of her resume, and her inflated participation in politics-from interning (read copy girl) at a law firm whose senior partner was involved in politics to political activism(read-painting placards and handing out fliers), to stating that SHE was responsible for writing the health-care reform bill--which DIED, by the way. Please, NO FIRST LADY ever actively participated in running the presidency while her husband was still in office, with the exception of Eleanor Roosevelt, and Hillary is definitely not the intellectual or even class equal of Eleanor Roosevelt.
Hillary's claim to political fame-the beleaguered wife of a philandering husband;
the first FIRST LADY to have been called before a Congressional hearing-I believe scamming old people out of their homes and life-savings is a crime-how 'bout you-(remember WHITEWATER?); no good answers on that, AND she withheld documents requested by the Congress; undeclared windfall from cattle futures-never handed over the tax records on that, either, to Congress; the STILL unanswered questions of her knowledge of why Vince Foster committed suicide(I STILL think she knows more than she said); and the rest of her psychological neuroses that she continues to exhibit. Who can now say she's the best candidate for the job????weirdface




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Anonymous

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to 'everyone'...idiot

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Anonymous

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I wish you all could spell well. That'd be a plus to all.

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Anonymous

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If Hillary gets the nomination, who is going to break the news to the black Democrats?   This could create a major backlash that would hand the election to the Republicans.  The super deligates could damage the party for years to come.

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There are plain and simple truths which point to the best candidate:
1. While Hillary has been working in various political and non-political arenas (including tenures as FIRST LADY [IN THE WHITE HOUSE] and U.S. Senator) since the 1970s, no one outside of Chicago knew Barack Obama's name until 2005 or later. 
2.  Hillary is not perfect.  Neither is Obama.  Hillary's imperfections are well-known...that means no big surprises in October. What if we hadn't heard of Rev. Wright until October?  Do you realize what that means?  REPUBLICAN LANDSLIDE!

These other reasons are more...subjective, if you will.  To me, it seems as if Obama becomes inordinately frustrated towards people who ask the tough questions.  When asked about Rev. Wright or Rezko or some other unsavory topic, he shuts down; he turns the tables on questioner, accusing him/her of delving into Republican tactics or straying from the issues that matter to voters.  Newsflash, Obama: It matters to me that you've had a 20+ year spiritual relationship with a racist pig who spews hatred and violence from the pulpit.  Of course, who cares if this relationship is only spiritual!  Does that mean that you'll only hate America in spirit?  So your politics will remain wholeheartedly patriotic, right?  Who wants our President's spiritual advisor and confidant to be a heartless, anti-American idiot: Obama supporters, evidently.  Also, may I point out that Hillary has won in the states Democrats need to win in November: New York, California, Ohio, and the list goes on (not to mention Florida and Michigan).  I am shocked that so many voters of the SMART party have been duped: Barack Obama is nothing more than a political fad, a one-hit wonder.  I welcome replies. 



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oldguy

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Are these the best the democrats could come up with,? Boy are we in trouble!

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Lynn

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correction: Hillary was in Washington DC.

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Lynn

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What do you say about patriotism now. His 20 year spiritual relationship with an American hating, racial devisive pastor. I seriously question his patriotism.

You bring up Katrina? Where was Obama after Katrina? where has he been since then?

Excuse but correct me if I am wrong, Both President Clinton and Hillary Clinton have spent much time in New Orleans since Katrina - they have shown that they care - Obama has shown nothing.


He couldn't even be bothered to attend the State of the Black Union event held in New Orleans because he had already won that state and was too busy campaigning. Clinton attended it - even after the way Lousiana turned their backs on her, even after the citizens of New Orleans turned their backs on her - she went back down there. In fact, President Clinton was there today.

YOu really need to pay closer attention to who really cares about people - after the lights are turned off and the crowds go home.



Do you live anywhere near Louisiana? Bill and GHW raised funds there, not Hillary-she was busy in New York. Granted, I may have missed the broadcast, where she visited. But in legislation, she's done NOTHING. She tried to introduce a bill, but it died. Hillary has done nothing for Gulf Coast recovery, beyond charitable contributions, and I can't find where she says she has...
In the ABC News blog, Political Punch, Hillary is shown once again to have fabricated noble endeavor on her partfurious

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/12/clinton-claims.html

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Lynn

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CLA wrote:

Even his pretty speeches are wilting. Finally, finally - he actually has to speak for himself. His staff tried and no one accepted it. Many anchors on MSNBC and CNN bring on pundits and guests that will even tell us that what Wright preaches is ok. OK to blame America for 911, OK to hate whites, OK to hate America, OK not to cover your heart for the Pledge of Allegience if you are black. His racist, American hating sermons go on and on over many weeks.

And Obama has the audacity to stand there as say that he never heard any of these - did not know that Wright felt this way, After a 20 year very close and personal relationship - close enough to call him uncle. After years of this man being his spiritual advisor and after titling his book after one of Wright's sermons.

I don't buy it. I never did buy it. Obama has never had to answer any uncomfortable questions - he has the media to do it for him.

He is so two faced. He claims that Clinton is negative whenever she raises any issue - she is being racial - yet he will sit there and knock her apart.

I am just shocked that he has been able to get so many people to follow him with his dream. What happens when his dream becomes America's nightmare?

I have to tell you, He claims to be the 2nd coming of Martin Luther King yet he chose to suppress the votes from 2.3 million voters in Michigan and Florida.

What the media will not tell you is that Obama CHOSE to remove his name. The DNC has confirmed in phone calls that I made to them that the candidates were not asked or pressured to remove their name.

Obama CHOSE to remove his name and in doing so turned his back on 2.3 million young and old, men and women, black, white, hispanic, etc etc voters.
I doubt that MLK would approve of this. For this reason alone, Obama lost my vote. I want my vote to count. I had no say in the date of the election. To take my vote away makes a mockery of democracy.

Another fact the media will not tell you is that the was a very active ground campaign in Michigan to tell voters that to vote for Obama, check uncomitted. You didn't have to write his name - you just had to check uncomitted. Then, when you arrive at the polls to vote you were told by poll workers that to vote for Obama or Edwards check uncomitted. Oh yes, there was a campaign in Michigan for Obama and he did not even have to pay for it.

Now he complains that it was not fair that voters could not vote for his name. Not fair? It was his fault. He managed to twist this around that Clinton did something wrong in keeping her name on the ballot. She did nothing wrong. She, from before the first primary, said that the votes should be counted.

The media will only tell you that she has said this recently because she needs the votes. This is absolutely not true. As early as January she stated that the votes should be counted.

It's truly amazing that she is still in this after being forced to campaign not only against all the guys, but the media, the DNC, Pelosi, The enchanted group, the constant deceit of the press that she is making racial comments, the pundits, etc. She is a very strong person and she has stayed in this race in spite of all of them - and for that, if no other reason - she has earned my support.

Last - the bylaws of the DNC do not allow for punishing voters by suppressing their votes or not seating their delegates for any infraction of rules. It just does not sanction it. The DNC violated their own bylaws and agendas in doing this. Oh, I am sure that Howard Dean never imagined that it would come down to those two states or he would have though twice. It was great to give a punishment that would never have an effect on the outcome - but it has - and I want my vote to count.

I can tell you right now that if either candidate wins this primary and counting the votes of Michigan and Florida would have changed the outcome I WILL NOT SUPPORT THAT CANDIDATE. I am far from alone in this feeling. I WILL vote republican for the first time in my life.



The DNC bylaws don't allow for the primary dates to be changed. The punishment was laid out by the DNC chairperson-Howard Dean. Both Michigan and Florida DNC personnel knew and went ahead despite losing delegates. Get over it. Obama had NO participation in the suppression of votes. Provide proof if you have it.
What you are unaware of, or perhaps being purposely obtuse over, is that both Obama AND Clinton agreed not to campaign in those states.
Provide the proof in video or newspaper that Sen. Obama actually stated he's the second coming of Martin Luther King.
Who you should be mad at is your state's DNC chairperson. That's the person who made the decision to ignore Howard Dean. Same goes for Florida. Write or email Howard Dean.
I believe it is HILLARY who has been whining about loss of delegates in Florida and Michigan. Google: 'which candidate has complained of lost delegates in Michigan and Florida'-and see whose name comes up.
Also, get your facts straight.evileye

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Lynn

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the above post was by Lynn, not Anonymous.

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well i'l been a democrat for a little over 20 years i vote for bill clinton twice, and i wiill vote for hilary, i trust her judgement in the domestic and international policys what i don't understand why we have to be so carefull when we talk abaout obama is no dought that color has a great deal of meaning in his campain if we look at the results in the election till now afro americans are voting are voting for a afroamerican, i belive that he's getting votes not for his message but for the color of his skin. and if he belive the same that his pastor this is a man that an afraid i will not vote for him if nesesary i will cross lines and vote for the republican candidate

 



"Color" has always been an important part of the vote. They just have more say in this election than in the past, when there were no black candidates.(Except Jesse Jackson, and even they didn't support him). I'm not voting for Obama based on the color of his skin, though I don't doubt some people will.
I'm voting for Obama based on the fact that he didn't and doesn't support the war; has come out clean in the Rezko mess; has nothing to hide and hasn't hidden anything, unlike the other two candidates. McCain and Clinton ARE NOT squeaky clean-they are members of the 'old guard'. Incompetence from Sen. McCain, incompetence from Clinton. McCain has more experience in Washington politics than Clinton, whose experience in the Senate is lackluster. What's she done, REALLY? EVeryone says how "experienced she is". Well, First Ladies DO NOT get to have input in the business of the presidency, or to set policy. Her overblown claims have proven to be lies, every time. If she's so experienced, her lies ought to take longer than a few hours to refute.

 



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What do you say about patriotism now.  His 20 year spiritual relationship with an American hating, racial devisive pastor.  I seriously question his patriotism.

You bring up Katrina?  Where was Obama after Katrina?  where has he been since then?

Excuse but correct me if I am wrong, Both President Clinton and Hillary Clinton have spent much time in New Orleans since Katrina - they have shown that they care - Obama has shown nothing.


He couldn't even be bothered to attend the State of the Black Union event held in New Orleans because he had already won that state and was too busy campaigning.  Clinton attended it - even after the way Lousiana turned their backs on her, even after the citizens of New Orleans turned their backs on her - she went back down there.  In fact, President Clinton was there today.

YOu really need to pay closer attention to who really cares about people - after the lights are turned off and the crowds go home. 


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CLA

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Even his pretty speeches are wilting.  Finally, finally - he actually has to speak for himself.  His staff tried and no one accepted it.    Many anchors on MSNBC and CNN bring on pundits and guests that will even tell us that what Wright preaches is ok.  OK to blame America for 911, OK to hate whites, OK to hate America,  OK not to cover your heart for the Pledge of Allegience if you are black.  His racist,  American hating sermons go on and on over many weeks. 

And Obama has the audacity to stand there as say that he never heard any of these - did not know that Wright felt this way,  After a 20 year very close and personal relationship - close enough to call him uncle.  After years of this man being his spiritual advisor and after titling his book after one of Wright's sermons.

I don't buy it.  I never did buy it.  Obama has never had to answer any uncomfortable questions - he has the media to do it for him.

He is so two faced.  He claims that Clinton is negative whenever she raises any issue - she is being racial - yet he will sit there and knock her apart.

I am just shocked that he has been able to get so many people to follow him with his dream.   What happens when his dream becomes America's nightmare?

I have to tell you,  He claims to be the 2nd coming of Martin Luther King yet he chose to suppress the votes from 2.3 million voters in Michigan and Florida.

What the media will not tell you is that Obama CHOSE to remove his name.  The DNC has confirmed in phone calls that I made to them that the candidates were not asked or pressured to remove their name. 

Obama CHOSE to remove his name and in doing so turned his back on 2.3 million young and old, men and women, black, white, hispanic, etc etc voters. 
I doubt that MLK would approve of this.   For this reason alone, Obama lost my vote.  I want my vote to count.  I had no say in the date of the election.  To take my vote away makes a mockery of democracy.

Another fact the media will not tell you is that the was a very active ground campaign in Michigan to tell voters that to vote for Obama, check uncomitted.  You didn't have to write his name - you just had to check uncomitted.  Then, when you arrive at the polls to vote you were told by poll workers that to vote for Obama or Edwards check uncomitted.  Oh yes, there was a campaign in Michigan for Obama and he did not even have to pay for it.

Now he complains that it was not fair that voters could not vote for his name.  Not fair?  It was his fault.  He managed to twist this around that Clinton did something wrong in keeping her name on the ballot.  She did nothing wrong.  She, from before the first primary, said that the votes should be counted. 

The media will only tell you that she has said this recently because she needs the votes.  This is absolutely not true.  As early as January she stated that the votes should be counted. 

It's truly amazing that she is still in this after being forced to campaign not only against all the guys, but the media, the DNC, Pelosi, The enchanted group, the constant deceit of the press that she is making racial comments, the pundits, etc.  She is a very strong person and she has stayed in this race in spite of all of them - and for that, if no other reason - she has earned my support.

Last - the bylaws of the DNC do not allow for punishing voters by suppressing their votes or not seating their delegates for any infraction of rules.  It just does not sanction it.  The DNC violated their own bylaws and agendas in doing this.  Oh, I am sure that Howard Dean never imagined that it would come down to those two states or he would have though twice.  It was great to give a punishment that would never have an effect on the outcome - but it has - and I want my vote to count.

I can tell you right now that if either candidate wins this primary and counting the votes of Michigan and Florida would have changed the outcome I WILL NOT SUPPORT THAT CANDIDATE.  I am far from alone in this feeling.  I WILL vote republican for the first time in my life. 



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He is soooo transparent that we can't even see him.  How can you vote for someone who runs only on his character and claims to have no insider connections.

You believe Clinton lies because the media tells you so.  You should wake up and demand that Obama tell us more about himself - since that is his claim to fame.

What do you say now about his connection with Wright?  That man is an American hating, racist hate monger and Obama has always claimed that he is his close spiritual confidante, even naming his book after one of Wrights sermons.

 



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comon what is the message that you talking abaout, he only have pretty speeches, no substance no plan no real ageda no obama for me i stay with hilary

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well i'l been a democrat for a little over 20 years i vote for bill clinton twice, and i wiill vote for hilary, i trust her judgement in the domestic and international policys what i don't understand why we have to be so carefull when we talk abaout obama is no dought that color has a great deal of meaning in his campain if we look at the results in the election till now afro americans are voting are voting for a afroamerican, i belive that he's getting votes not for his message but for the color of his skin. and if he belive the same that his pastor this is a man that an afraid i will not vote for him if nesesary i will cross lines and vote for the republican candidate



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Chad wrote:

Why not McKane - every Demcrat seems to overlook him? He's got a really good war record and all. You can't just rely on Hillary or Obama...



Why aren't you posting for McCain on the Republican thread? Maybe no one mentioned him on this thread because it's regarding Democrats.smile

 



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Why not McKane - every Demcrat seems to overlook him?  He's got a really good war record and all.  You can't just rely on Hillary or Obama...

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Mike

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Mike Gravel all the way... the only one who's from a place "colder" than washington D.C. (and he's pro-pot)

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Both.....If Hillary is pres Canadate then Obama V pres

if Obama is pres Canadate then Hillary V pres....best of both worlds

best for the people,,,,,, Im in got my Vote...  idea

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Barack Obama...Our country is in the biggest trouble it has ever been in...the real potential of falling into anarchy is very real...imagine, a Cat 5 hurricane in the Gulf, let's say Texas area...the state of our economy is as such that if this senario occurs American's could be faced with 10.00 gallon gas...food stortages...a whole host of bad things can come about from this...we need a leader that when the battle gets tough for America, he will stand tall, and lead this nation with an inspiration that wills the weak to be strong...that wills the thirsty to dig for water where there is water...a leader that will have the good of the people in heart and mind...a leader who dares to challenge the establishment when the establishment has been blinded by greed...and Barack is a revolution of spirit of patriotism and we Americans want our country back....

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Americans and our short memory. The fact is that Hilary has worked to help people for 35 yrs in respect to the Federal goverment. From working to impeach Nixon in the 70's to health care now. Obama on the other hand has done most of his civil work in community service which is probably not going to help much. Remember Jimmy Carter as great a speaker and leader of change he was they squashed him in Washington and this is an example of what I am trying to convey.

He came in after Nixon which a few of us remember as crooks who he even had a hand in the Kent State murders and suprise now we have a unknown / untested candidate again in Obama. As I remember it didn't go good for Carter as it probably won't for Obama as I see alot of talk but nothing else (Jimmy's was Trust Me and Obama is Change) Bull. Now we have another crook in the white house named George Bush / Dick Chenny / the whole staff. It seems the republican party including alot of news networks are pushing Obama down our throats. He speaks good, has virtualy no qualifications, and dosen't have a clue what he is in for. So get ready for nothing for the next 4 yrs if Obama wins so Jeb Bush can come to save the day in 2012 with more crooks and maybe give missles and train another bunch of terrorist.

I just wish the crooks (republican party) to tell us all who to invest in so we all can get rich. I mean they got the News Channels, Religous right, the NRA, the Military, Saudi's/Oil/Auto/Construction companies (Halibuton, etc.), Corp America and oh yeah FOX. It would seem that one of these would tell us how to get in their click.



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I voted for Barack Obama during the NY primary.  I know that he doesn't have the track record of Clinton, but he also doesn't have the partisan baggage that she will lug with her to the white house.  I am certain she would make a good president, but another Clinton presidency would only serve to regalvinze the republicans and would continue this cycle of Democrats vs. Republicans.

Now I'm not naive enough to think that partisan politics will disappear with Obama in the white house, but I do think that he will go a long way towards bridging two of the biggest divides our country currently faces - that of racism and that of republican vs. democrat. 

It's time for a new chapter, and only a new candidate can make that happen.  And although he doesn't have much of a track record, he is intelligent enough to surround himself with good people and make good decisions. 

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Lynn

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Above post should be 'Lynn'

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Anonymous

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Alex of Sheboygan, WI wrote:

Here would be my top four
Obama
Clinton
Edwards
McCain



Edwards dropped out a couple of weeks ago.wink

 



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Alex of Sheboygan, WI

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Here would be my top four
Obama
Clinton
Edwards
McCain

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Lynn

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Name problem again-Lynn is supposed to be there, again! Can the forum editor(s) set the name line to automatically remember/place the poster's screen name?

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I am voting for Hillary Clinton. She is the best qualified, most experienced in both Domestic and International policy, and has a cadre of skilled and knowledgeable advisors and staff to draw from, not the least of whom is Bill Clinton.

Hillary 2008!!!



Where are the details of Hillary's domestic and international policy experience on her resume confused

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Lynn

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You have got to be kidding me. McCain might be your choice? So it doesn't bother you that he supports overturning Roe v Wade? I sure as hell don't want someone who thinks that way running this country.



I'm serious. I'll vote for Obama if he gets the DNC nomination. I don't think Hillary is the best choice, period. McCain wouldn't be the one overturning Roe vs. Wade if you really think that out, Anonymous. SCOTUS will make that decision, and Dubya has already filled the Court with right-wing neocons. I personally believe that when the House has their mid-term elections in 2009, they will finally get the Democrat majority, thereby controlling which bills get to the floor. In that case, McCain will be thwarted in exactly the same way as Republicans' thwarting Bill Clinton. I'm not apologizing for my choice. I do NOT want the Clinton team running the show. Yeah, Bill was a good president, but Hillary isn't centrist like Bill; she's too far left, and I'm a moderate Independent. Her administration isn't likely to reduce the deficit by a LONG shot, at all. smile
 

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You have got to be kidding me.  McCain might be your choice?  So it doesn't bother you that he supports overturning Roe v Wade?  I sure as hell don't want someone who thinks that way running this country. 

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I FORGOT TO TYPE MY NAME IN THE BOX-LYNN

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It's time to end the circus. Bill Clinton is a clown. We don't need two for the price of one presidency.

The Clintons are so full of crap, it's hard for me to stay focused on which one is running. Let's face it, she is just like Lurleen Wallace, when George Wallace could not seek another term as governor of Alabama.

Go away Bill, you do not deserve a third term.

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I agree. He'd be Hillary's 'ghost advisor'. Plus watching the coverage of her compaign, I thought he was overshadowing her and taking away focus from her. She should have her team go get him an intern to keep him occupied.biggrin

 




 



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Anonymous

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It's time to end the circus. Bill Clinton is a clown. We don't need two for the price of one presidency.

The Clintons are so full of crap, it's hard for me to stay focused on which one is running. Let's face it, she is just like Lurleen Wallace, when George Wallace could not seek another term as governor of Alabama.

Go away Bill, you do not deserve a third term.



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Lynn

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Initially I was for Bill Richardson. He had the best resume for president, especially as an ambassador, several cabinet posts, and governor of New Mexico. I was sorry to see him drop out. I hope whoever becomes president taps him for the VP job.

I think Hillary's experience is over-inflated. She has observed politics more than participated in them. Duplicity is the name of the game, and she is very good at that game. She has already proven to be a liar, by incorrectly stating her credentials as having 35 years of experience in politics. Just a smarter Dubya in Democrat's clothing. I dislike her for her coldness, shrewdness, and manipulation, though I admire her for the same things. It's the pointless lying that makes me vote for someone else. If she gets the  nomination at the Democratic Convention, I'm going to use my Independent status and vote for McCain. I used to live in Arizona, liked him as senator. I'm willing to live with amnesty.evileye

My choice is leaning more and more towards Obama. I WANT to see a black man in the White House. He is for transparency in government, and runs his campaign that way. I like that his ideas aren't necessarily status quo; he may just be the fresh air the country needs.

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Hillary is by far the best candidate in my view.  She's got the track record and the experience, she is a thinker, and she is a true Democrat, in all senses of the word.

If you listen to her words and look at her platform, she has infinitely more substance than Obama and Edwards.  I'm afraid that I haven't seen much more into Obama beyond the fact that he is a great orator.  That is simply not enough to run this country, especially in today's environment.  Hillary has the leadership and the passion.

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The Democrats must win the next Presidential election.  According to the best evidence available, Obama beats all likely Republican challengers by double digit margins. Clinton has nearly as many people prepared to vote against her as for her. Please, we don't need more divisivness and polarization. Barack Obama offers Democrats the leader most people from accross the political spectrum want to see lead this county. His message of real change is credible and speaks to what people want most from this next President: honest democratic leadership.  



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Right now my choice of candidates is:

John Edwards
Barak Obama
Hillary Clinton

I am basing this on the issues and how I see them and the candididates match them.  So far Edwards and Obama speak to my concerns more than Hillary.  I will support Hillary if she is the party's choice.



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Anonymous

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I am voting for Hillary Clinton. She is the best qualified, most experienced in both Domestic and International policy, and has a cadre of skilled and knowledgeable advisors and staff to draw from, not the least of whom is Bill Clinton.

Hillary 2008!!!

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Adaon

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I'd say John Edwards, he shares a lot of my views and I just believe he would be the best for the job. Hillary would be a person I'd really want to stay away from.

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We have a good group of Democratic candidates, most with similar ideas on the issues.  There are differences in personalities, though, so I like each one for different reasons (Hillary might tackle health care first, Edwards knows how to handle big-business, Richardson is the diplomatic one, etc.)  So, who are you voting for, and why?

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